As a born and bred NY'er who slept in the back of flatbed trucks on 9-11, 9-12, and 9-13, only to be reinvigorated then dive back into the grisly work at hand by one of the best speakers of our day, I know precisely how persuasive this man can be when he puts his mind to it. Erase his penchant for believing that what with all of the things the government says we can't do to our body's, a woman somehow has the right to kill her fetus...but on the other hand shouldn't be allowed to protect it by owning a gun... and this is the right guy at the right time.
McCain, on the other hand, can talk the talk but is certifiably insane if he thinks giving a free ride to his mehicaner compadres is ever gonna happen.
MANCHESTER, N.H. - "Rudy Giuliani and John McCain waged war over immigration reform during the Republican presidential debate last night - with the former mayor blasting the plan as "a typical Washington mess."
McCain fired back that opposing the overhaul now before Congress means "de facto amnesty" for the 12 million illegals already in the United States.
It's the first time that Giuliani and McCain went mano-à-mano and directly attacked each other's position in such a public forum over the contentious issue of illegal immigration, as they stood next to each on the stage at St. Alselm's College in the third GOP presidential debate.
"The problem with this immigration plan is it has no real unifying purpose. It's a typical Washington mess. It's everybody compromises - four or five compromises," said Giuliani.
"When you look at these compromises, it is quite possible it will make things worse."
Giuliani said any plans should include an ID card and be able to identify all foreigners residing in the United States.
"Rudy, you just described our legislation, so I'd be glad to have further conversation with you, because it does account for people who are here illegally," McCain snapped, turning to Giuliani during the CNN-sponsored debate featuring 10 Republicans.
McCain agreed with Giuliani that controlling illegal immigration is a national security issue and stressed the bill has an employment-verification system.
"For us to do nothing is silent and de facto amnesty," Arizona Sen. McCain said. "We need to act, my friends. And if someone else has a better idea, I'd love to have them . . . give it to us."
He added, "We cannot have 12 million people washing around America illegally, my friends."
No John, we can't. But what would be even worse is to let another 50 million in to end the American experiment once and for all.
None of the others stands a chance of raising the necessary cash. McCain has peaked and isn't getting those poll numbers back anytime soon and Fred Thompson is about 50 million dollars behind the leaders. Here's an honest to God conversation I had yesterday:
Me and the boys were listening to some of that immigration problem talk and someone said that the radio guy Limbawg was telling people that there's thousands of illegal mexicans here...
No, there are between 12 and 20 million illegal mexicans here.
Nah, nobody really believes that. Thats the politicians lying again just to ask us for more money...
The awful truth has been driven home to me time and again. A lot of semi-illiterates living outside of the border states just don't believe the country is being overrun. They vote in every election, but the idea of millions cannot be fathomed.
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